Mr. Anderson RE-OWNED, Part Zwei

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Mr. Anderson RE-OWNED

By: Eric Turner

Now that we have gotten the names issue out of the way, and the bad interpretation of the Hebrews verse out of the way, let us move on to Steven Anderson’s argument of Colossians 2. He says that Colossians 2 is telling us that the Dietary Commands, the Sabbaths, the New Moons, and the Feasts have all been done away with. Using Colossians 2, we will test this claim of His and see if it lines up with the Word of God.

Col 2:1  For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh; 2  That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3  In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4  And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5  For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ. 6  As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7  Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. 8  Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9  For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10  And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11  In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12  Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13  And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14  Blotting out the handwriting of ORDINANCES that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15  And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16  Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17  Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. 18  Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19  And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. 20  Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances, 21  (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22  Which all are to perish with the using;) after the COMMANDMENTS AND DOCTRINES OF MEN? 23  Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body; not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.

 

The first thing I would like to point out is that Mr. Anderson claims that the Sabbaths, New Moons, and Feasts have been done away with or “nailed to the cross”. There was indeed a set of ordinances that were nailed to the cross have no doubts, but I assure you, it was NOT the Sabbaths, New Moons, and Feasts. The first thing we must look at is context, what do the surrounding verses say? Both above and below verse 14, it speaks of rudiments of this world, and commandments and doctrines of men that say touch not, taste not, and handle not. My question is this, are the laws of God the commandments of men? Are they rudiments of this world? Does the law of God allow the Worship of Angels? Does the law of God satisfy the flesh? ABSOLUTELY NOT! The Fleshly mind is hostile towards God, and cannot submit to God’s law according to Paul.

Rom 8:3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.5  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

 

Do you see that? The fleshly mind cannot submit to the authority of God’s law. Only them that have the Spirit can submit to God’s law. Let us look at a different translation that paints a little clearer picture.

(ISV)Rom 8:3  For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to deal with sin. He condemned sin in the flesh 4  so that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5  For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6  To set our minds on the flesh leads to death, but to set our minds on the Spirit leads to life and peace. 7  That is why the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile toward God. For it refuses to submit to the authority of God’s law because it is powerless to do so. 8  Indeed, those who are under the control of the flesh cannot please God.

 

So, we see here that someone who has their minds set on the flesh cannot submit to the Authority of God’s law because the fleshly mind is HOSTILE towards God. The video I watched with Mr. Anderson looked pretty hostile towards God’s Law. He says that the Sabbaths, New Moons, dietary laws, and Feasts are done away with. If this is in fact the case we have a major problem. This would mean that jots and tittles, even entire chapters of the law of God have been abolished. What did Jesus say?

Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

 

So, if Mr. Anderson’s interpretations are correct, that makes the scriptures contradict themselves now doesn’t it. This we cannot accept, because the Word of God does not contradict itself. Mr. Anderson uses scriptures to teach that the Messiah had a better doctrine than the Old Testament. Jesus says he did not bring any new doctrine, but the doctrine he preached was His Father’s doctrine. The misunderstanding Mr. Anderson has is that he does not go through the scriptures in context and does not go back to the Greek to see what words are being used. As stated before, there is indeed a set of ordinances that were nailed to the cross. The question remains, what ordinances were nailed to the cross? The ordinances were contrary to us, and they were against us. Are the Father’s instructions contrary to us? Are they against us? Let us look and see what word is used in the Greek for ordinances.

G1378

δόγμα

dogma

dog’-mah

From the base of G1380; a law (civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical): – decree, ordinance.

These ordinances are not of divine origin, they are man-made ordinances. They are Ecclesiastical ordinances. In other words, they are ordinances that were made by the Ecclesia, or, the “Church”. These laws today are known as the Talmud. These laws are a huge addition to the laws of God that the “circumcision party” was trying to enforce upon the Christians. This word “dogma” is NOT ONE SINGLE TIME in the Bible used to describe any portion of the Laws of God.

G1378

δόγμα

dogma

Total KJV Occurrences: 5

decrees, 2

Act_16:4, Act_17:7

ordinances, 2

Eph_2:15, Col_2:14

decree, 1

Luk_2:1

EVERY time in scripture this word “dogma” is used, it is describing decrees put forth by men, not of God. So, we see above verse 14, as well as below verse 14, in the context of the Chapter, that the laws that were nailed to the cross were man-made decrees, not the ETERNAL laws of God that the Messiah Jesus said would not pass away in any form until Heaven and Earth pass away. There are other places in the English KJV where the word ordinance is used to describe God’s laws, but it is a completely different Greek word used. Here is an example.

Luk 1:6  And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

This Greek word is a different word than the ordinances discussed in Colossians 2.

G1345

δικαίωμα

dikaiōma

dik-ah’-yo-mah

From G1344; an equitable deed; by implication a statute or decision: – judgment, justification, ordinance, righteousness.

This word is also used and translated as RIGHTEOUSNESS and every time it is used in this manner it is in the context speaking of the laws of God.

G1345

δικαίωμα

dikaiōma

Total KJV Occurrences: 10

righteousness, 4

Rom_2:26, Rom_5:18, Rom_8:4, Rev_19:8

ordinances, 3

Luk_1:6, Heb_9:1, Heb_9:10

judgment, 1

Rom_1:32

judgments, 1

Rev_15:4

justification, 1

Rom_5:16

Another reason that these ordinances cannot be the laws of God is because of the action of nailing them to the cross itself. In the 1st Century, the civil laws of Rome had very similar decrees as we do to this day. If a man was to be put to death, the laws he broke were to be publically read or posted to the populous in order to show why the person deserves death. We know Jesus did not transgress the laws of God, else he cannot be the Messiah. What laws was he guilty of breaking that deserved death? Who put Him to death? The Pharisees put him to death under their Blaspheme laws in the Talmud, and it was THIS LAW that was nailed to the cross, literally, because this law is the one that was used to put forth the decree of death by the High Priest of Israel. The Pharisees continued over and over to find sin in Jesus, but he never transgressed the laws of God, so that had Him killed under THEIR laws.

Mat 26:59  Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death; 60  But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses, 61  And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. 62  And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? 63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64  Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65  Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66  What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.
Now, in all the writings of Moses, you will not find the word Blaspheme, or Blasphemy. Every time we see it in the Writings and the Prophets, the only people killed under the charges for blasphemy were the real Prophets, what else is new eh? There are no blasphemy laws anywhere in Moses. There are many things in Moses that one can be put to death for, but blasphemy is not one of them. Now, what is Paul saying in verse 16? He most certainly is not saying what Mr. Anderson says he is saying. He is saying let no man judge you FOR observing the Feasts, Sabbaths, New Moons, and dietary laws. There are a great many laws in the Talmud that say a Gentile is not allowed to observe the Sabbaths, New Moons, and Feasts. Here are a few.

“A Gentile observing the Sabbath deserves death” (Sanh. 58b).

page 399 of the Talmud, Soncino edition) states:

“A heathen who keeps a day of rest, deserves death … Their prohibition is their death sentence.”

It is forbidden for a gentile to study those portions of the Torah that apply only to the people of Israel as members of the Covenant obligated to observe all 613 Commandments of the Torah specifically given to Israel. According to the Talmud, a gentile who studies those portions would be liable to death from Heaven (Sanhedrin 59a).

So, now we have the context of the chapter, the context of the laws of the times, the context of which laws Jesus was sentenced to death under, and the context of the Pharisaic laws preventing Gentiles from observing the Sabbaths, which includes the Feasts, and of even studying the Torah portions that are Israel covenant portions deserves death. We have found that the way Mr. Anderson interprets the Colossians 2 verses forces contradictions in the Bible. We were warned about men like Mr. Anderson, who would misunderstand and twist Paul’s letters to promote a lawless doctrine by the Apostle Peter.

2Pe 3:15  And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16  As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. 17  Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.

Let us look at the definition the KJV translators used as “wicked”.

G113

ἄθεσμος

athesmos

ath’-es-mos

From G1 (as a negative particle) and a derivative of G5087 (in the sense of enacting); lawless, that is, (by implication) criminal: – wicked.

The Thayer definition is even worse.

G113

ἄθεσμος

athesmos

Thayer Definition:

1) one who breaks through the restraint of law and gratifies his lusts

Let us compare other translations and see what they say.

(The Scriptures 1998+)  You, then, beloved ones, being forewarned, watch, lest you also fall from your own steadfastness, being led away with the delusion of the lawless,

(ESV)  You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, take care that you are not carried away with the error of lawless people and lose your own stability.

(LBP)  You therefore, my beloved, seeing that you know these things beforehand, beware, lest you follow the error of the lawless, and fall from your own steadfastness.

(ISV)  And so, dear friends, since you already know these things, continually be on your guard not to be carried away by the deception of lawless people, lest you fall from your secure position.

 

So, we see here that Peter warned us that men would misunderstand Paul’s hard to understand writings and it would lead to a lawless doctrine. Paul was FALSELY accused many times of teaching against Moses in the scriptures, yet every time he was accused, he was found innocent or said plainly himself he was in agreement with the law, including the Sabbaths and Feasts. Now, let us look at Paul’s Sabbath and Feast observances WITH GENTILES throughout the scriptures.

Act 18:18  And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow. 19  And he came to Ephesus, and left them there: but he himself entered into the synagogue, and reasoned with the Jews. 20  When they desired him to tarry longer time with them, he consented not; 21  But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God will. And he sailed from Ephesus.

1Co 16:5  Now I will come unto you, when I shall pass through Macedonia: for I do pass through Macedonia. 6  And it may be that I will abide, yea, and winter with you, that ye may bring me on my journey whithersoever I go. 7  For I will not see you now by the way; but I trust to tarry a while with you, if the Lord permit. 8  But I will tarry at Ephesus until Pentecost.

Acts 18:3  And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers. 4  And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.

1Co 5:8  Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

 

So, we see here that Paul kept both the Feasts, and the Sabbaths with both Jews and Gentiles, not sometime, not a lot, but as the scripture says, EVERY SABBATH. Paul was indeed telling the Colossians to not let any man judge them for observing such things. Here is a Greek expert that explains.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ATxTz6UKA

 

So, what we find is Mr. Anderson is left wanting and lacking in his interpretations. We find that Paul again is being accused FALSELY of teaching against Moses. We find that it was not the laws of God, in any part or portion that was nailed to the cross, and we see Paul observing both the Sabbaths and the Feasts throughout the book of Acts and His writings. Now one last thing I would like to point out to Mr. Anderson. He himself teaches there is no pre-trib rapture, and this I agree totally on, but one key and VERY IMPORTANT instruction we are given when we find ourselves in the tribulation he has overlooked. We are told exactly what to do when we find ourselves in the tribulation in the latter days. I wonder if Mr. Anderson will hear the instructions given.

Deu 4:30  When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; 31  (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them. 32  For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it? 33  Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? 34  Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by temptations, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by a stretched out arm, and by great terrors, according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes? 35  Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. 36  Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire. 37  And because he loved thy fathers, therefore he chose their seed after them, and brought thee out in his sight with his mighty power out of Egypt; 38  To drive out nations from before thee greater and mightier than thou art, to bring thee in, to give thee their land for an inheritance, as it is this day. 39  Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. 40  Thou shalt keep therefore his statutes, and his commandments, which I command thee this day, that it may go well with thee, and with thy children after thee, and that thou mayest prolong thy days upon the earth, which the LORD thy God giveth thee, for ever.

 

This will conclude the second part of the Mr. Anderson rebuttal, and I pray that he listens well.

Jas 3:1  Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.

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